Clients

Q:

I was invited to bid for what developed into branding services for a white-labeling startup company. The company to whom I was “bidding” did not actually provide a specific scope, brief or RFP. Such is how it grew into a “branding” project. Their communication with me wasn’t very responsive. I interpreted it being more like an RFI, providing them with the following:

1. A list of typical deliverables.
2. A list of things not included.
3. A budget range with minimum & not-to-exceed amounts. 
4. An explanation of how scope development was needed to pinpoint the actual cost of services. 
5. Scope development was included in the minimum.

What is your opinion on my approach on the above mentioned project?

A:

This request sounds like the massive amount of undeveloped clients using social media mass photographer reachability to save them money. You’ll need to quickly assess if this is a reliable potential client or an “info for free” mass request.

They are asking you to be their creative development ad agency so you can:

1. Do that for free.
2. Give them your hourly rate for that type of branding work.
3. Tell them to contact you again when they have their shot list spec sheet prepared. 

Q:

What do I do if I’ve developed a solid synergistic relationship with a potential dream client (who found me!) over numerous emails working out the nitty gritty of a potential project they wanted a cost on, sent the estimate, then got ghosted? I’ve already followed up once (1 week after) now it’s another week after that and not a peep. So disappointing…

A:

Business is business, and as much as clients become our close contacts, we have to remember the ultimate truth that this is their job. We work in an overworked industry where no one has a lot of time. 

1. Don’t take it personally.
2. Your contact means well, but they are busy. 
3. Set a future date where you will email a kind and lightly humble email, understanding they are busy while blaming your curiosity for checking in on what became of that project.
4. Move on to what matters and how to bring your portfolio up to a level not to get passed up for jobs because the real issue is not that they didn’t respond but that you probably didn’t get that job. 

I get asked a lot about how photographers can get their first jobs. 

Let’s call this the INTRO stage as you are meeting the right people in the right places. 

Get experience finding opportunities in the areas you want to be working in, and with your confident demeanor, the people in your circles will know who to call when they are hiring. 

Q:

When first contacting a potential client, should I say something like, “Here is some new work I’ve done?” Or if you don’t have new work to show, is it too blunt to say you want to work together? Is there etiquette to follow up if you don’t hear from them? I don’t want to be that person that bombards them unsolicited over and over.

A:

I always say we should talk to people as we want to be talked to. When you sense someone is “selling” to you, don’t you want to delete, hand up or walk away? Clients know you want to work with them; that’s a given. The more you can sound like yourself, mentioning the fun location or an educational equipment reference gives them something to remember you by, The real stuff never gets old.

We can’t be spending our time doing estimates on information we don’t have. 

I’m hearing a ton of complaints from photographers wasting useless time on estimates that don’t turn out to be the real deal. I hear you! With no bid spec sheets, I get many of these requests that won’t reveal the budget upfront, so I focus on the points that help me see if this client is even ready for an estimate. Our goal is to quickly open up the communication doors, giving us a clearer sense of what we are dealing with.

My quick first step estimating questionnaire:

• What is the Usage?
• What is the specific Shotlist?
• Do you have a creative deck with the layouts + mood-boards?
• What are the talent rates?
• Do you have stylists you like to use?
• When is the creative call?

Q:

Hello! I’m a well established Swedish commercial lifestyle and outdoor photographer. I also shoot film and direct. My wife is American, and we are planning to move to Minneapolis soon. The transition from Sweden to the US is a pretty big step. I’ve been thinking of creating a second website that I can promote in the US for SEO and content. I want to meet with reps and, of course, brands and agencies. But as I’m not familiar with the market over there, I don’t know where to begin. What would be a good place to start?

A:

Welcome to the USA! One of the best parts of being a photographer is the barometer for good work is pretty much the same across the board. Moving from one location to another does not preclude you from getting jobs unless you want to work in one type of industry but show images from another sector. A wedding photographer has a more challenging time doing commercial advertising because that shows a different visual perception and aptitude scenario. Moving places won’t hold you back; it can even be a catchy conversation tool that will interest people. Rework your website to include the new location content/SEO/vibe based on the type of work you want to be getting, as that is the true focus.

Is this estimate request worth your time?

If only we could find out the budget, that would make it all so simple, but clients tend to keep that to themselves. 

3 ways I open up the conversation by presenting the question differently:

1. Name a high amount to question what they have in mind.
2. Under or over a certain amount can help to get a yes or no. 
3. A range amount $ between $ offers a safe and manageable option.

Q:

What would I put as a line item on my invoice for hourly random admin things? This came up recently when I had a client send me so many pages of documents to fill out; they’re also calling me and winding up on calls for hours and having me send proofs in multiple different ways. I want to bill for that time since it’s excessive but I don’t know what to call it. I would love any insight you have!

A:

Every bid I do has prep days to cover admin organizational time. I’ve even put an in-person pre-production meeting line item in the bid with a $0 amount to show that our prep time is not free. 

It’s good to spell out your terms with all the specifics, as far as which tasks are covered by your prep days, so if they want to add more, it’s clear they will pay more.

Q:

I am experiencing out-of-control clients requesting added or changed images as we are shooting, missing detailed composition into not included in the brief, and even complaining about actual details they didn’t want to see after I light their props – it’s crazy how uneducated these clients are! How do I handle this?

A:

The multi-parted answer to keeping the calm with out-of-control clients is all about covering yourself before any craziness begins. 

1. Have your estimate terms & conditions signed to protect you legally. 
2. Break out the job details step by step by covering the costs, what is included/not included, what the client will provide, including timeline and specific dates. 
3. It’s a good idea to submit a calendar schedule backing up the estimate line items clearly showing the expected dates. 
4. Best to have a producer on board to handle the clear communication, allowing you to focus on what you do best. 
5. A pre-production call is important to go over the step-by-step process, limiting any unknown surprises. 
6. Do not begin production and incur any costs without the advance payment of at least 50% of the total upfront. 
7. Do not hand over the final images until you have deposited the final payment. 

Q:

What does it mean when a client wants me to bid on a project, but they don’t want to have a creative call?

A:

If clients don’t want a creative call, that may be a sign for us to read into how they are not taking this as seriously as we’d like. It is time for the photographer to share their vision and approach, introducing the director who you will be on set. I read into them skipping this stage in a couple of ways: You may be the 3rd bidder and not be high on their list for this project so you should kick butt on your treatment as that can serve as your intro to the creatives and the client. Your estimate should be as ethically conservative as safely possible to entice the client to choose you but remember you could get locked into these prices in the future. This project may not be happening yet, and they needed your numbers to provide the client with a preliminary budget range.