Do you suggest always requesting a 50% advance? If so, what’s the best way to ask for it?
Yes. Always include a request for an advance in your estimate, so it’s in writing once the estimate is approved. I use simple language like, “50% of total due prior to beginning of shoot.” If they ask for a different amount and it’s reasonable, that’s fine with me. I just need a legal guarantee that my photographers will be paid. I’d be scared to work without that reassurance.
We can get “ghosted” after investing time in bidding for a job. What are some signs that we were never seriously up for this job?
Potential Bid GHOSTING Signs:
•Receive an email bid request with no phone or Zoom call
•No actual bid spec sheet with all the bidding/job details
•Casual instructions for us to “call for more info” as they are the ones who should know all the information
•A client who doesn’t look like they fit into our portfolio style
•The job title of the person contacting us does not sound like someone we normally deal with
What are your thoughts on bidding on a big job for a client when your portfolio does not reflect the same exact category of work?
It’s not always black or white. I’ve had experiences where a photographer’s style and the client’s confidence in that style landed them the job. In that instance, it was Toby Pederson booking an Apple campaign that included people in the images, even though he had no people in his portfolio.
On the other hand, there are instances when I can sense the photographer’s bid is in third place because their work isn’t exactly reflective of the job’s requirements.
I would advise you to get in the mix. Your work will be on their radar and use it as an opportunity to show what you’re capable of.
Photographers, what extras are you bringing to the job? Think about it. What is your contribution that extends beyond your client’s expectations? Reach further by offering more than completing the expected shot list. Build up your reputation to win you the jobs.
The secret formula to get bidding financial feedback:
When bidding on a job, clients won’t usually respond with the exact budget numbers; we have to ask with specific amounts, allowing them to respond with “yes, no, more, less…” etc.
I’m in the middle of negotiating a contract for a job I really want. The contract gives me no right to use the images for self-promotion, and effectively states that I could be sued for doing so.
Should I take the money and work on building the relationship, or should I fight for my rights at the risk of losing the gig?
I would talk to your contact at the company and gauge their flexibility. Explain why you need to show this work in order to secure future opportunities.
Hopefully, they’ll be receptive to your concerns and willing to work with you on terms that are fair to all parties. At the very least, do your best to advocate what’s fair.
Our industry also benefits when we stand together on issues like this. I understand why you wouldn’t want to walk away from the job over this, but asking for what you need (in a respectful way) shouldn’t cost you the job.
FACT: “Producer” is one of the fastest-changing bidding roles I’ve seen. Nowadays, jobs can come from producers, as clients hire them directly to do the bidding. Producers may also be one of the bidders on the job themselves, so it’s hard to track where we stand automatically. Refrain from anticipating or assuming anything about the structure when you hear the term – Producer.
Bidding on a job –
What’s the ‘special something’ you offer that will set you apart from the other bidders? How do you stand out? Have your unique skillset ready to focus on before you get on the creative call with the clients. Connect their branding goals with the distinguishing value you’ll bring so you can be the resource they are looking for!
Any thoughts on what to charge just for a GIF?
Specific negotiation topics to consider when pricing a GIF:
What do you do for your photographers when you have a second or third hold on a job trying to confirm, but the money is better on the one unconfirmed? What is the hold protocol? We haven’t heard much from others about how to handle holds, etc. Thanks Andrea!
I always use honesty for holding photographer’s dates by letting the clients know when we have others also asking about those same dates. A good general way to respond is, “As of right now I, am available those dates.” You also have the ability to encourage the client with the better budget to move quickly by letting them know you have a second hold and that someone else wants to officially book you.
